Comments on: China Briefing Blog http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452 Chinalyst - China blogs in English-Your China Blog Community en-US Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:41:49 -0500 Drupal TotalFeeds Module Comments on: China Briefing Blog http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452 http://www.chinalyst.net/files/chinalyst-red.png 101 32 Come Clean Mr. Ellis -- We are Waiting http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9024 <p>I too would like to see if Mr. Ellis can produce proof he graduated law school, won his case against Mr. Lehman, and his company was in China before 2005.</p><p> I am waiting.....  </p> I too would like to see if Mr. Ellis can produce proof he graduated law school, won his case against Mr. Lehman, and his company was in China before 2005.

 I am waiting..... 

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:41:49 -0500 Anonymous http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9024 Can Chris Devenshire Ellis Clear His Name http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9021 <p>Go look at the fight going on over at China Blawg.</p><p> I too am always hearing that Devonshere-Ellis never graduated from high school and actually lost his case against Ed Lehman&#39;s firm.  But there is an easy solution to these questions.  If Mr. Ellis really did win his case against Ed Lehman, why does he not publish the case number, location, and date of the case right here so anyone can look it up.  And if Mr. Ellis really did go to law school, why doesn&#39;t he publish the law school he graduated from and the year? We are all waiting.</p><p> The Technorati numbers don&#39;t lie.  China Law Blog has been referred to nearly 4500 times by other blogs and China Briefing has been referred to only 34 times by other blogs.  What this means is very clear:  4500 times people have thought what China Law Blog had to say was worth repeating on their own blog and only 34 times has anyone thought the same of China Briefing.  This has nothing to do with where the blogs come from or are hosted, but everything to do with the content on them.  The content on China Law Blog is worth talking about and that is also why it is so often mentioned in the leading media and China Briefing never is.  It is content that matters. </p><p> Here is your opportunity Mr. Devenshire Ellis, let&#39;s see what you do with it.  </p> Go look at the fight going on over at China Blawg.

 I too am always hearing that Devonshere-Ellis never graduated from high school and actually lost his case against Ed Lehman's firm.  But there is an easy solution to these questions.  If Mr. Ellis really did win his case against Ed Lehman, why does he not publish the case number, location, and date of the case right here so anyone can look it up.  And if Mr. Ellis really did go to law school, why doesn't he publish the law school he graduated from and the year? We are all waiting.

 The Technorati numbers don't lie.  China Law Blog has been referred to nearly 4500 times by other blogs and China Briefing has been referred to only 34 times by other blogs.  What this means is very clear:  4500 times people have thought what China Law Blog had to say was worth repeating on their own blog and only 34 times has anyone thought the same of China Briefing.  This has nothing to do with where the blogs come from or are hosted, but everything to do with the content on them.  The content on China Law Blog is worth talking about and that is also why it is so often mentioned in the leading media and China Briefing never is.  It is content that matters.

 Here is your opportunity Mr. Devenshire Ellis, let's see what you do with it. 

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:28:15 -0500 Anon http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9021 Take The Michael http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9018 <p>Aye its not often ye can get the op to tek the rise outta both of them at the same time</p><p>We mean no harm fellas</p><p>&#160;</p> Aye its not often ye can get the op to tek the rise outta both of them at the same time

We mean no harm fellas

 

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:15:13 -0500 Scotty http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9018 Silly Season http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9017 <p>Its all pretty funny - typical silly season stuff while the football season is closed. At least it&#39;s a proper competition now! </p><p>Go go China Briefing! Go go ChinaLawBlog! Hahahaha the funniest blog I&#39;ve seen for awhile this competition over the best blog. All very silly. I hope we can do it again next year! </p> Its all pretty funny - typical silly season stuff while the football season is closed. At least it's a proper competition now!

Go go China Briefing! Go go ChinaLawBlog! Hahahaha the funniest blog I've seen for awhile this competition over the best blog. All very silly. I hope we can do it again next year! 

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:50:16 -0500 Anonymous http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9017 Dear Tony, really thanks to http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9015 <p>Dear Tony, really thanks to be so American, so selfish, so ... by the way, good speach from a former Brit colony!</p><p>I&#39;d like to remark where you shall put you &quot;American&quot; money but I&#39;m quite sure it does not worth my time!</p><p>So keep on going, you&#39;re right maaaaaan !!!!!. </p><p>Luca</p> Dear Tony, really thanks to be so American, so selfish, so ... by the way, good speach from a former Brit colony!

I'd like to remark where you shall put you "American" money but I'm quite sure it does not worth my time!

So keep on going, you're right maaaaaan !!!!!.

Luca

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:48:37 -0500 Luca http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9015 China Briefing just asked their blog subscribers to vote http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9012 China Briefing just added close to a hundred votes in the past two hours, I received a voting advise from them as I subscribe to the blog. That 10-1 outsider bet may well pay off ! China Law Blog may have peaked too early, it looks as if now China Briefings blog subscribers are voting they are catching up fast. Did China Law Blog count their chickens too quickly? Its all down to who has the most readers....    China Briefing just added close to a hundred votes in the past two hours, I received a voting advise from them as I subscribe to the blog. That 10-1 outsider bet may well pay off ! China Law Blog may have peaked too early, it looks as if now China Briefings blog subscribers are voting they are catching up fast. Did China Law Blog count their chickens too quickly? Its all down to who has the most readers....   

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:11:17 -0500 Todd http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9012 The Americans Know Nothing http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9010 <p>If that guy looked up China Briefing and couldn&#39;t find it he needs bi-focals and new optic nerves. I&#39;m also not sure about the validity of the Technorati data, it won&#39;t include a lot of material that is on many sites. I guess ChinaLawBlog is housed in the US, but China Briefing probably isn&#39;t, so that may make a difference when looking as US collected data. </p><p>The other difference is in the articles on the blogs - CLB is written about China from the States, and China Briefing is written about China from China, and I think it shows. </p><p>If you want legal commentary, CLB is the blog. But if you want more China national commentary about investment law, tax, and regional updates, you go to China Briefing, it&#39;s far more comprehensive. There is no real comparison between the two. In China people read China Briefing, it has more relevance.  </p><p>&#160;</p><p>&#160;</p> If that guy looked up China Briefing and couldn't find it he needs bi-focals and new optic nerves. I'm also not sure about the validity of the Technorati data, it won't include a lot of material that is on many sites. I guess ChinaLawBlog is housed in the US, but China Briefing probably isn't, so that may make a difference when looking as US collected data.

The other difference is in the articles on the blogs - CLB is written about China from the States, and China Briefing is written about China from China, and I think it shows. 

If you want legal commentary, CLB is the blog. But if you want more China national commentary about investment law, tax, and regional updates, you go to China Briefing, it's far more comprehensive. There is no real comparison between the two. In China people read China Briefing, it has more relevance. 

 

 

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:32:17 -0500 Alex Whithers http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9010 China Briefing http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9009 It is the best one. And also in other languages. Everyone reads China Briefing. It is the best one. And also in other languages. Everyone reads China Briefing.

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:21:23 -0500 Roberto http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9009 China Briefing http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9007 A most useful China information source<br /> A most useful China information source

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:39:59 -0500 Klaus http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9007 Up. http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9006 Up. Up.

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:34:30 -0500 Bo http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9006 If China Law Blog have asked http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9005 <p>If China Law Blog have asked all their readers to vote and China Briefing haven&#39;t done that yet - China Law Blogs fans could be in for a bit of a shock. They seem a bit cocky at CLB. Typical Americans when winning. U-S-A ! U-S-A ! </p><p>I reckon China Briefing are playing this game and will rack up a load of last minute voters and nick it at the end. Go CB ! Go CB !</p> If China Law Blog have asked all their readers to vote and China Briefing haven't done that yet - China Law Blogs fans could be in for a bit of a shock. They seem a bit cocky at CLB. Typical Americans when winning. U-S-A ! U-S-A !

I reckon China Briefing are playing this game and will rack up a load of last minute voters and nick it at the end. Go CB ! Go CB !

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:24:07 -0500 Anonymous http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9005 Place Your Bets! http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9003 <p>It&#39;s only one way of measuring it. I googled as follows to compare to see how many web pages on each. CLB came out tops every time on google:</p><p>China Law Blog: 59, 800,000</p><p>China Briefing: 5,130,000</p><p>Harris &amp; Moure: 118,000</p><p>Dezan Shira &amp; Associates: 9,330</p><p>Dan Harris: 6,080,000</p><p>Chris Devonshire-Ellis: 601 </p><p>Yet I have a suspicion that China Briefing even with that, may have more readers. And of course those rankings above are largely nonsense. Harris &amp; Moure are a smaller practice than Dezan Shira, yet the numbers above would have them 10 times bigger. &quot;Harris&quot; is a common name. &quot;Dezan&quot; and &quot;Shira&quot; are not. </p><p>It ain&#39;t over &#39;til the fat lady sings, and it wouldn&#39;t surprise me if China Briefing readers - <u>if they are asked to vote</u> - may well pile in. I&#39;m a subscriber to the blog, and they haven&#39;t solicited any votes from me yet. So I reckon they have a lot of potential votes that haven&#39;t yet appeared. If they do go and ask their subscribers to vote, it&#39;ll be an interesting week. China Briefing after all is in it&#39;s eighth year, and China Law Blog is relatively recent.   </p><p>But at the end of the day, both blogs are good, and thats what counts, as do readers votes. And you can&#39;t fake those. </p><p><strong>Betting odds: </strong></p><p><strong>4-5</strong> favorite: China Law Blog </p><p><strong>10-1</strong> outsider: China Briefing </p><p>At odds like that, I&#39;d put USD10 bucks on China Briefing!  </p><p>And thanks to both blogs, Dan, Chris and Chinalyst for making this amusing and somewhat fun.  </p><p>&#160;</p> It's only one way of measuring it. I googled as follows to compare to see how many web pages on each. CLB came out tops every time on google:

China Law Blog: 59, 800,000

China Briefing: 5,130,000

Harris & Moure: 118,000

Dezan Shira & Associates: 9,330

Dan Harris: 6,080,000

Chris Devonshire-Ellis: 601

Yet I have a suspicion that China Briefing even with that, may have more readers. And of course those rankings above are largely nonsense. Harris & Moure are a smaller practice than Dezan Shira, yet the numbers above would have them 10 times bigger. "Harris" is a common name. "Dezan" and "Shira" are not. 

It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings, and it wouldn't surprise me if China Briefing readers - if they are asked to vote - may well pile in. I'm a subscriber to the blog, and they haven't solicited any votes from me yet. So I reckon they have a lot of potential votes that haven't yet appeared. If they do go and ask their subscribers to vote, it'll be an interesting week. China Briefing after all is in it's eighth year, and China Law Blog is relatively recent.  

But at the end of the day, both blogs are good, and thats what counts, as do readers votes. And you can't fake those.

Betting odds:

4-5 favorite: China Law Blog

10-1 outsider: China Briefing

At odds like that, I'd put USD10 bucks on China Briefing!  

And thanks to both blogs, Dan, Chris and Chinalyst for making this amusing and somewhat fun.  

 

]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:03:39 -0500 Eric Minto http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9003 clb http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9000 <p>Dan is on my list of the ten bloggers I would most like to meet. </p><p>Even with reading virtually every blog, good and bad, out here he takes time to comment on every one...</p><p> In doing a business plan for a multi-national enroute to China I corresponded with both Dan and Steve  and never waited more than a few hours for a detailed reply to my queries. I can cannot imagine doing business with anyone but CLB&#39;s team. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I have long thought that they deserve  the award for best law blog in the whole damn sphere...No one does it better...</p><p>Oh, ditch the Alexa rankings. Dan and Steve, without the dysfunctional Amazon owned number calculator,   own the bragging rights  most linked to and visited biz blog in China, but Alexa rankings are crap. They don&#39;t even approximate accurate. </p><p> Long live CLB.  <br /></p> Dan is on my list of the ten bloggers I would most like to meet.

Even with reading virtually every blog, good and bad, out here he takes time to comment on every one...

 In doing a business plan for a multi-national enroute to China I corresponded with both Dan and Steve  and never waited more than a few hours for a detailed reply to my queries. I can cannot imagine doing business with anyone but CLB's team. 

 

I have long thought that they deserve  the award for best law blog in the whole damn sphere...No one does it better...

Oh, ditch the Alexa rankings. Dan and Steve, without the dysfunctional Amazon owned number calculator,   own the bragging rights  most linked to and visited biz blog in China, but Alexa rankings are crap. They don't even approximate accurate.

 Long live CLB. 

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:52:34 -0500 onemanbandwidth http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-9000 The Numbers Tell The Story Here http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8999 <p>Go to Technorati.  Run a search for China Law Blog and you will see that blog has been cited to 4,409 times as compared with 34 times for China Briefing Blog.  China Law Blog is ranked around 6,500 at Technorati and China Briefing is ranked around 342,000.  </p><p>Now go to Alexa and you will see that China Law Blog is ranked 288,000 out of all the websites in the world.  China Briefing Blog is at 978,000.  China Law Blog is the 92,000 highest rated site in China, 77,000 highest ranked in Taiwan and 125,000 ranked in Hong Kong.  China Briefing Blog does not even register in any of those countries.  </p><p> I ran a google news search on Dan Harris and Steve Dickinson (the two writers for China Law Blog) and the China Law Blog and they show up in the Wall Street Journal, Forbes Magazine, CBS News, Salon Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, The New York Times, Business Week, and The International Herald Tribune, among others, just in the last year.  I could not find anything on China Briefing Blog.  </p><p>China Law Blog comes from both Steve Dickinson in Shanghai and Dan Harris in Seattle, so those claiming it to be just from the United States are wrong.  I am neutral on this whole thing, but I do think it is important that we stick to the facts and the facts show that no matter how this particular vote turns out,  China Law Blog is by far the more established and well recognized blog.  </p> Go to Technorati.  Run a search for China Law Blog and you will see that blog has been cited to 4,409 times as compared with 34 times for China Briefing Blog.  China Law Blog is ranked around 6,500 at Technorati and China Briefing is ranked around 342,000. 

Now go to Alexa and you will see that China Law Blog is ranked 288,000 out of all the websites in the world.  China Briefing Blog is at 978,000.  China Law Blog is the 92,000 highest rated site in China, 77,000 highest ranked in Taiwan and 125,000 ranked in Hong Kong.  China Briefing Blog does not even register in any of those countries. 

 I ran a google news search on Dan Harris and Steve Dickinson (the two writers for China Law Blog) and the China Law Blog and they show up in the Wall Street Journal, Forbes Magazine, CBS News, Salon Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, The New York Times, Business Week, and The International Herald Tribune, among others, just in the last year.  I could not find anything on China Briefing Blog. 

China Law Blog comes from both Steve Dickinson in Shanghai and Dan Harris in Seattle, so those claiming it to be just from the United States are wrong.  I am neutral on this whole thing, but I do think it is important that we stick to the facts and the facts show that no matter how this particular vote turns out,  China Law Blog is by far the more established and well recognized blog. 

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:32:30 -0500 Objective One http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8999 B/S ! http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8998 Thats <u>total bullshit</u> man. The US has the money, and the power, and it is American blogs that talk it like it is when it comes to China. Sticking up for IP, and Human Rights, and Fair Trade. Dan and China Law Blog have got it nailed. Anything else is anti-American propaganda bullshit designed to let the developing world take a dollar off hard earnt Amercian values. Go wid your pussies in regional Asia but its the USA that sta ds up for world rights. !!!! Bout time someone had something to say on this stupoid commnististic debate. Even Beckham Amercian now. WHY ? ChinaLaw Blog got the right attitude when in enemy terrotiory. Protecting the brothers. Vote ChinaLawBlog sticking up fore Amercian values YEAH! Protect American jobs, we feeding that world cash people.    Thats total bullshit man. The US has the money, and the power, and it is American blogs that talk it like it is when it comes to China. Sticking up for IP, and Human Rights, and Fair Trade. Dan and China Law Blog have got it nailed. Anything else is anti-American propaganda bullshit designed to let the developing world take a dollar off hard earnt Amercian values. Go wid your pussies in regional Asia but its the USA that sta ds up for world rights. !!!! Bout time someone had something to say on this stupoid commnististic debate. Even Beckham Amercian now. WHY ? ChinaLaw Blog got the right attitude when in enemy terrotiory. Protecting the brothers. Vote ChinaLawBlog sticking up fore Amercian values YEAH! Protect American jobs, we feeding that world cash people.   

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:27:23 -0500 Tony http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8998 China Briefing every time. http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8995 <p>China Briefing every time. More detail, more practical relevant. Who wants to listen to a bunch of Yank lawyers dissing China products and its government and banging on and on about the rights of American consumers and business interests in every bloody thread from Yawnsville, Seattle ? Zzzzzzzzzzz  </p> China Briefing every time. More detail, more practical relevant. Who wants to listen to a bunch of Yank lawyers dissing China products and its government and banging on and on about the rights of American consumers and business interests in every bloody thread from Yawnsville, Seattle ? Zzzzzzzzzzz 

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:03:22 -0500 NotaLawyer http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8995 More than a purely US focus needed for China blog commentary http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8994 <p>China Briefing I think is the better of the two. The Indian community voted for him here on his 2point6billion entry in this contest of that there is no doubt, and many India journalists also read China Briefing. I also look at the China Law blog but it doesn&#39;t seem so interesting to Asian based professionals. Maybe thats a difference. I can imagine it being popular in the US but not in India or Asia, so its limited appeal in some extent. There are other countries than purely the US that invest in China after all! </p><p>On another note, maybe <strong>Hillary Clinton</strong> can take heart that India just elected our first woman President? Chris Devonshire has already commented on it on his <a href="http://www.2point6billion.com/">www.2point6billion.com</a> blog - but would ChinaLawBlog? I&#39;d be surprised, so you can see the differences. And having a new woman President in India affects both China and the US, so you see my point. </p><p>As a regional journalist, China Briefing is a more complete read than the ChinaLawBlog imo, which appears US biased at a time when its influence in Asia is diminishing. Its not a  criticism, its just that the sites when you compare them fulfill separate functions and appeal to different people. </p><p>Nowadays we need more than just the American perspective in China blogging.  </p><p>            </p> China Briefing I think is the better of the two. The Indian community voted for him here on his 2point6billion entry in this contest of that there is no doubt, and many India journalists also read China Briefing. I also look at the China Law blog but it doesn't seem so interesting to Asian based professionals. Maybe thats a difference. I can imagine it being popular in the US but not in India or Asia, so its limited appeal in some extent. There are other countries than purely the US that invest in China after all!

On another note, maybe Hillary Clinton can take heart that India just elected our first woman President? Chris Devonshire has already commented on it on his www.2point6billion.com blog - but would ChinaLawBlog? I'd be surprised, so you can see the differences. And having a new woman President in India affects both China and the US, so you see my point.

As a regional journalist, China Briefing is a more complete read than the ChinaLawBlog imo, which appears US biased at a time when its influence in Asia is diminishing. Its not a  criticism, its just that the sites when you compare them fulfill separate functions and appeal to different people. 

Nowadays we need more than just the American perspective in China blogging.  

            

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:47:58 -0500 Anoop Bhagwati http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8994 CB Articles rather good http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8993 <p>I find China Briefings articles rather good. Have you seen the latest - <em>&quot;Has China&#39;s Economic Development Hit A Glass Ceiling?&quot; </em>Here:<em> </em><a href="http://www.china-briefing.com/blog">www.china-briefing.com/blog</a> </p><p>Some hard hitting comments there from Mr. CDE. All that and the same firm does <a href="http://www.2point6billion.com/">www.2point6billion.com</a> as well. Now I think thats pretty cool and rather better balanced from an Asian regional perspective. In fact if you added votes from both together as has been pointed out elsewhere, Dezan Shira and not Harris Moure would be winning. Maybe a mistake on CDEs part, but your right I doubt hes fussed.  </p> I find China Briefings articles rather good. Have you seen the latest - "Has China's Economic Development Hit A Glass Ceiling?" Here: www.china-briefing.com/blog 

Some hard hitting comments there from Mr. CDE. All that and the same firm does www.2point6billion.com as well. Now I think thats pretty cool and rather better balanced from an Asian regional perspective. In fact if you added votes from both together as has been pointed out elsewhere, Dezan Shira and not Harris Moure would be winning. Maybe a mistake on CDEs part, but your right I doubt hes fussed.  

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:23:15 -0500 Ryan Cody http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8993 CLBlog has general opinion http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8992 <p>CLBlog has general opinion and comment, mainly on China-US issues, esepcially dispute resolution and trade, China Brief has legal and tax development articles and many more city regional and detailed comment. I guess one is better geared to the US market looking at China (CLB) while CB is geared better to people who are already in China, as its more technical, and both are equally valid, but are different.  </p> CLBlog has general opinion and comment, mainly on China-US issues, esepcially dispute resolution and trade, China Brief has legal and tax development articles and many more city regional and detailed comment. I guess one is better geared to the US market looking at China (CLB) while CB is geared better to people who are already in China, as its more technical, and both are equally valid, but are different.  

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:39:57 -0500 Xia Li Hua http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8992 China Briefing and http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8991 <p>China Briefing and ChinaLawBlog are the two heavyweights here for sure, and I&#39;d agree that they serve different  functions. Hell let &#39;em both win ! I doubt Dan Harris or Chris Devonshire-Ellis are that bothered who wins, and the latter posts a lot on Dans blog. BOTH blogs indirectly promote a firm - China Briefing with Dezan Shira &amp; Associates (China FDI tax law) and ChinaLawBlog is by Harris &amp; Moure (US/China investment law). It is true Dan gets more comments, but they tend to be his loyal same group of the same people, while everyone I know reads China Briefing but doesn&#39;t necessarily comment on it. So take your pick - they&#39;re different, but both pretty essential. I think we&#39;re lucky to have both, especially in China, and I think both deserve respect for putting them up and spending time on them. I actually voted for both.   </p><p>&#160;</p><p>&#160;</p> China Briefing and ChinaLawBlog are the two heavyweights here for sure, and I'd agree that they serve different  functions. Hell let 'em both win ! I doubt Dan Harris or Chris Devonshire-Ellis are that bothered who wins, and the latter posts a lot on Dans blog. BOTH blogs indirectly promote a firm - China Briefing with Dezan Shira & Associates (China FDI tax law) and ChinaLawBlog is by Harris & Moure (US/China investment law). It is true Dan gets more comments, but they tend to be his loyal same group of the same people, while everyone I know reads China Briefing but doesn't necessarily comment on it. So take your pick - they're different, but both pretty essential. I think we're lucky to have both, especially in China, and I think both deserve respect for putting them up and spending time on them. I actually voted for both.   

 

 

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:31:29 -0500 Steve Perry http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8991 How do you measure ? http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8989 Some blogs, like ChinaLawBlog, are written specifically to attract and encourage comment. Others, and I personally think China Briefing is written this way, are written to inform. There is a difference. The Editors blog from China Economic Review is also in this list, yet only has 39 votes thus far. Yet you can&#39;t say it isn&#39;t a good blog, yet it informs rather than being an out and out discussion forum like ChinaLawBlog is. Just because a blog doesn&#39;t have many comments, doesn&#39;t mean it isn&#39;t well read. I read ChinaLawBlog for comment, and I read China Briefing for its articles. They are different animals, yet both are blogs. Different strokes, different folks. In a weeks time I guess we&#39;ll know which blog has the most readers. Personally, it&#39;s not going to affect which blogs I read at all, I&#39;ll still continue to read both.     Some blogs, like ChinaLawBlog, are written specifically to attract and encourage comment. Others, and I personally think China Briefing is written this way, are written to inform. There is a difference. The Editors blog from China Economic Review is also in this list, yet only has 39 votes thus far. Yet you can't say it isn't a good blog, yet it informs rather than being an out and out discussion forum like ChinaLawBlog is. Just because a blog doesn't have many comments, doesn't mean it isn't well read. I read ChinaLawBlog for comment, and I read China Briefing for its articles. They are different animals, yet both are blogs. Different strokes, different folks. In a weeks time I guess we'll know which blog has the most readers. Personally, it's not going to affect which blogs I read at all, I'll still continue to read both.    

]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:03:10 -0500 Mark Pegler http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8989 I thought this was top blogs http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8985 <p>I think concerned citizen might be on to something! There are more comments and more discussion here then I have ever seen on the actual blog! For an &quot;institution&quot; and the &quot;grand daddy&quot; of them all, it sure does not seem to attract much attention or discussion. I read China Briefing from time to time and sometimes it has decent articles, but it is not on my RSS feeder and it does not strike me as much of a blog per se. It has free articles to advertise their firm.</p><p><br />And I am ok with that. Business has to advertise after all. But to me, blogs, and especially the best blogs, are about community and discussion. They are a conversation. I don&#39;t get that from China Briefing...its more of, well, a briefing. <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">In my opinion, if you want informative business/legal BLOGS then China Business Blog, China Solved, All Roads Lead to China, Diligence China, and China Law Blog are where the conversation is. Where readers are engaged and contribute and are not just people on the payroll. </span></font></p> I think concerned citizen might be on to something! There are more comments and more discussion here then I have ever seen on the actual blog! For an "institution" and the "grand daddy" of them all, it sure does not seem to attract much attention or discussion. I read China Briefing from time to time and sometimes it has decent articles, but it is not on my RSS feeder and it does not strike me as much of a blog per se. It has free articles to advertise their firm.

And I am ok with that. Business has to advertise after all. But to me, blogs, and especially the best blogs, are about community and discussion. They are a conversation. I don't get that from China Briefing...its more of, well, a briefing. In my opinion, if you want informative business/legal BLOGS then China Business Blog, China Solved, All Roads Lead to China, Diligence China, and China Law Blog are where the conversation is. Where readers are engaged and contribute and are not just people on the payroll.

]]> Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:53:40 -0500 derek http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8985 China Briefing Blog http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8979 <p>The China Briefing blog isn&#39;t new, it was just rebranded. Before then it used to be the private blog, subscriber only <em>Dezan Shira Investment Intelligence Reports</em>. Thats why you only see it as new under its new China Briefing tag. It&#39;s been around for several years as a subscription blog, but was opened up to all for free and relaunched earlier this year. So when you look at the rankings it shows up as new, whereas in fact it isn&#39;t. So China Briefing and the blog are not a new media vehicle. Keep voting for your favorite blog, it&#39;s  one man one vote here in this contest so it&#39;ll all work out in the end. People will vote for their favorites no matter what anyone tries to do about it. Readership will count at the end of the day, not comments. Good luck to all and let the best man win ! We&#39;re currently third so have a bit of a way to go.   </p><p><strong>China Briefing </strong> </p><p>  </p><p>   </p> The China Briefing blog isn't new, it was just rebranded. Before then it used to be the private blog, subscriber only Dezan Shira Investment Intelligence Reports. Thats why you only see it as new under its new China Briefing tag. It's been around for several years as a subscription blog, but was opened up to all for free and relaunched earlier this year. So when you look at the rankings it shows up as new, whereas in fact it isn't. So China Briefing and the blog are not a new media vehicle. Keep voting for your favorite blog, it's  one man one vote here in this contest so it'll all work out in the end. People will vote for their favorites no matter what anyone tries to do about it. Readership will count at the end of the day, not comments. Good luck to all and let the best man win ! We're currently third so have a bit of a way to go.   

China Briefing  

  

   

]]> Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:59:02 -0500 Sam at China Briefing http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8979 The voters will decide ! http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8976 <p>The voters will decide ! <strong>Power to the People ! </strong>Democracy rules ! </p><p>Amen </p> The voters will decide ! Power to the People ! Democracy rules !

Amen

]]> Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:28:30 -0500 Dr. Magus http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8976 Sadly competition always http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8975 Sadly competition always brings out some negatives! China Briefing is hardly new, so get a life. Its more an institution. I can&#39;t see why people are just happy about so many quality blogs being around now than bitching about which ones are better than others, and China Briefing has a huge and informed readership. Nothing wrong with that if people want to acknowledge it. My vote goes to CB. They offer much more than a blog, and still keep it free. That&#39;ll work for me! And being in South China - the regional news about the airline is very relevant by the way. About the only biz blog that has <u>regional</u> news, and thats worth a lot. Bit sad competition has brought in some slating of blogs by the way, one aspect of China expat biz that is sleazy. But my money is with China Briefing. Longer in the business, better articles, and more regionally informed imo.      Sadly competition always brings out some negatives! China Briefing is hardly new, so get a life. Its more an institution. I can't see why people are just happy about so many quality blogs being around now than bitching about which ones are better than others, and China Briefing has a huge and informed readership. Nothing wrong with that if people want to acknowledge it. My vote goes to CB. They offer much more than a blog, and still keep it free. That'll work for me! And being in South China - the regional news about the airline is very relevant by the way. About the only biz blog that has regional news, and thats worth a lot. Bit sad competition has brought in some slating of blogs by the way, one aspect of China expat biz that is sleazy. But my money is with China Briefing. Longer in the business, better articles, and more regionally informed imo.     

]]> Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:25:16 -0500 Mark Harrison http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8975 China briefing PR staff working overtime http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8972 <p>China briefing must be using it&#39;s PR staff to write these comments because they do not sound like they come from readers.  China briefing is a new blog and it is not yet talked about at all.  Go to Technorati and you will see that it has yet to register even a blip as compared with some of the other blogs in this category.  The reason why nobody comments on China briefing blog is because there is usually nothing to say.  The typical article might say something like how there is new air service to Shenzhen and then it concludes with an advertizement saying Dezan Shira has an office in Shenzhen so give us a call.  I am not going to bother commenting by asking it cease with the constant advertizing. I just choose not to return.  </p> China briefing must be using it's PR staff to write these comments because they do not sound like they come from readers.  China briefing is a new blog and it is not yet talked about at all.  Go to Technorati and you will see that it has yet to register even a blip as compared with some of the other blogs in this category.  The reason why nobody comments on China briefing blog is because there is usually nothing to say.  The typical article might say something like how there is new air service to Shenzhen and then it concludes with an advertizement saying Dezan Shira has an office in Shenzhen so give us a call.  I am not going to bother commenting by asking it cease with the constant advertizing. I just choose not to return. 

]]> Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:43:07 -0500 Concerned Citizen http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8972 Two Thumbs Up! http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8970 <p>Lets face it - in China business <u>everybody</u> reads China Briefing, it&#39;s an institution. ChinaLawBlog giving them a run for their money though online! But they are numbers one and two in whichever order you want to put them in. People comment more on ChinalawBlog as it&#39;s written that way, but China Briefing is more informative.      </p> Lets face it - in China business everybody reads China Briefing, it's an institution. ChinaLawBlog giving them a run for their money though online! But they are numbers one and two in whichever order you want to put them in. People comment more on ChinalawBlog as it's written that way, but China Briefing is more informative.     

]]> Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:19:13 -0500 Anonymous http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8970 China Briefing is one of the http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8964 China Briefing is one of the best. Excellent work.  China Briefing is one of the best. Excellent work. 

]]> Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:20:00 -0500 Anonymous http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8964 China Briefing http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8958 The granddaddy of them all actually - China Briefing first came out in 1999. Still the only free magazine about China biz, still indispensable and now a great, informative daily blog. What more can you ask for ? Good on Dezan Shira &amp; Associates, and I hope you guys win - because you thoroughly deserve it. China Briefing wins my vote by a long way.    The granddaddy of them all actually - China Briefing first came out in 1999. Still the only free magazine about China biz, still indispensable and now a great, informative daily blog. What more can you ask for ? Good on Dezan Shira & Associates, and I hope you guys win - because you thoroughly deserve it. China Briefing wins my vote by a long way.   

]]> Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:38:20 -0500 LegalBeagle http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8958 China briefing blog http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8954 <p>Let me say, as user of China Briefing bolg, it&#39;s one of the most comprehensive blog on China business life.</p><p>Great job to al at Dezan Shira, mostly to Mr. Rosario Terrone, manager in Guangzhou!</p><p>Luca</p> Let me say, as user of China Briefing bolg, it's one of the most comprehensive blog on China business life.

Great job to al at Dezan Shira, mostly to Mr. Rosario Terrone, manager in Guangzhou!

Luca

]]> Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:03:38 -0500 Luca http://www.chinalyst.net/node/17452%2523comment-8954