I Do Not Believe It's Right to Condemn Terrorism

Submitted by Math on Sat, 2006-08-26 03:57. ::
 

Editor's note: With this post, Math graduated from villiage idiot to pathetic sadist. I'm saving a copy of the text as proof of his inherent badness, but I'm deleting it from my site, which I will then spray with a powerful disinfectant. Math, if there's a God, you're going to hell after writing this.

Richard

Ivan
Submitted by Ivan on Sat, 2006-08-26 06:17.

Richard, why the fuck do you put up with this shit?

Seriously, Richard, you deserve a new kind of Nobel Prize for Tolerance and Free Speech.

Fat Cat
Submitted by Fat Cat on Sat, 2006-08-26 08:01.

I don't usually take Math very seriously. But this time around, I have to join Ivan to point out that what Math has posted above is total shit. And I don't feel like tolerating this kind of ignorant comment either. It goes beyond fun and laughs. Math should know better that the majority of commenters at the Duckpond are either against or very critical of the war in Iraq. But we don't make excuses for terrorism and violence. And that's the bottom line.

Besides this is the section at the Duckpond for "Things Chinese". Why is it that Math is attacking US foreign policy on a forum about China? Does anyone of you see any similarities here between what Math is doing and what some CCP apologist has been doing at another forum called Chinapol?

Aramel
Submitted by Aramel on Sat, 2006-08-26 08:34.

Math, please stop talking before I start wanting to throttle you.

... though my grandpa and his friends (it's their monthly get-together) are currently talking about how wonderful it would be for the US to attack Iran, because of the number of terrorist attacks it would provoke, so Math doesn't seem to be alone.

I'm disturbed, but now I know better than to argue politics with them.

Ivan
Submitted by Ivan on Sat, 2006-08-26 08:49.

I no longer buy the idea that Math is just a "satirist." Math is just a morally bankrupt motherfucker with an evil mind full of evil shit. Which is to say, he's a perfect Communist Pig.

Richard
Submitted by Richard on Sat, 2006-08-26 09:09.

Guys, believe it or not I don't sit here all day reading each post/comment in real time as they come in. I just saw this. It's really scary, and no, I won't tolerate it.

Math, I've shown you a lot of latitude and allowed you to post a lot of bullshit. This crosses the line between stupid tastelessness and true wickedness. I'm going to delete your post, but these comments will stand - would you like to defend yourself? You've never once answered anyone's comments or questions about your idiotic "essays," which I only tolerate because there's something funny about them, like a crazed self-parody. There's nothing funny about this one, and I strongly suggest you clean up your act if you plan to post here again. Clear?

Ivan
Submitted by Ivan on Sat, 2006-08-26 09:15.

Richard, as one Gentleman and lover of civilisation to another: Kudos to you, for that last comment, as the ancient Greeks would say.

And the ancient Greeks would not say "there is a God", but they WOULD say that Math deserves punishment from the gods for what he wrote - because what he wrote was just SO FUCKING UGLY AND STUPID! And to the ancient Greeks, that was the worst sin of all....

RajGB
Submitted by RajGB on Sat, 2006-08-26 13:36.

Would Math have the same attitude if Uighur terrorists blew up the Beijing metro, the Shanghai Pearl Oriental tower, etc?

Richard
Submitted by Richard on Sat, 2006-08-26 15:10.

He said, terrorism is only okay if it's against the UK or US. So terrorism against China is bad, against the US it's aceeptable.

Gag Halfrunt
Submitted by Gag Halfrunt on Sat, 2006-08-26 15:12.
Ivan wrote:
No obviously antisemitic shit, and we know it when we see it. And the same rule applies to any other "cousins" of antisemitism, such as fashionable anti-Americanism, or whatever. And we know it when we see it. There IS a good reason to use some common sense here.

And, I trust, no anti-Arab or Islamophobic shit either.

Ivan
Submitted by Ivan on Sat, 2006-08-26 21:03.

Correct (although I decided it was time to delete most of my above comment after Richard rectified the situation.)

However, "Islamophobia" is not the same thing as acknowledging that there are quite a few Muslim fanatics out there who really do pose a threat to the entire world.

Sonagi92
Submitted by Sonagi92 on Sun, 2006-08-27 15:52.

I understand how pulling trollish essays like math's helps cut down on bandwidth clutter and maintains the dignity of the blog. However, I feel like I missed seeing a good horror film but not visiting the pond while the piece was posted. On another blog, gems are saved under a category "hall of shame." They are closed for comment, available for viewing only. Could I suggest something similar for the Pond?

Ivan
Submitted by Ivan on Sun, 2006-08-27 20:55.

If someone posted child pornography on this forum, would you really want it to remain online and simply moved to a "hall of shame?"

There's a good reason why Richard metaphorically sprayed this site with powerful disinfectant after removing what Math posted.

pigsun
Submitted by pigsun on Sun, 2006-08-27 23:19.

This is the level of this forum? Just delete posts that the host does not like? Hahahahha, very democratic!

I cannot read Math's post on terorrism, but I must say that today's "terrorism" is totally defined by the US. There's no standard. The only standard is US's standard. Basically the US believes he is the dad of the entire world, and he can "define" anything he want to.

There's a saying in Chinese: "世界上没有无缘无故的爱, 也没有无缘无故的�". Why do you think people in Middle East can so easily become terrorists? They are humans too and they also have families. Do you they enjoy bomb themselves to meat pies? By logic, they must have been pushed so much that they are desparate and have no hope. 狗急跳墙. You understand what that means?

I must admit that these things happen in China too. There are some incidents where some Chinese worker or farmer who was wronged by the local government or his company and cannot find social justice, and they go to a court or a police station and blow themselves up. Do you think they wanted to do that? They had no choice!!!!!! It's simply the scream of a hopeless man. So when those farmers and workers blow themselves up in some police station or some court, and you read the comments on Sina.com on these stories, 80% of the netizens highly supported those workers (some support their actions directly, others do not support their actions, but also support their spirit).

So I hope American can understand why there are so many supporters of the so - called "terrorists"

RajGB
Submitted by RajGB on Sun, 2006-08-27 23:52.
pigsun wrote:
This is the level of this forum? Just delete posts that the host does not like? Hahahahha, very democratic!

piggy, richard has given more toleration to Math's offensive drivel than anyone possibly could. Well any sane person. But there is a limit to what anyone can tolerate, richard included.

Sonagi92
Submitted by Sonagi92 on Mon, 2006-08-28 04:19.

Child pornography is illegal in most countries.

Richard
Submitted by Richard on Mon, 2006-08-28 04:28.

Pigsun, you are walking on thin ice. If you know this forum, you'll know that getting a post deleted is something you have to strive for. I have never deleted a post of your, although I find you detestable and reprehensible in every way. In the future, I might not always be so nice.

Sonagi, I saved Math's vile "essay" on my home computer, just in case I ever need evidence as to what a sick fuck he really is - email me if you want me to send you a copy.

Ivan
Submitted by Ivan on Mon, 2006-08-28 04:31.

Sonagi,

Advocating terrorism is illegal in most countries too.

Sonagi92
Submitted by Sonagi92 on Mon, 2006-08-28 04:35.

Please do, Richard. Ivan is right: advocating terrorism is illegal in most countries.

Sonagi92
Submitted by Sonagi92 on Mon, 2006-08-28 06:05.
Quote:
Do you think they wanted to do that? They had no choice!!!!!!

Yes, they did have a choice. Their frustration was understandable but nothing was gained by their desperate act of murder-suicide. Maybe the dead police officer who happened to be at the station had nothing to do with the injustice, but now her husband is a widower and her daughter mother-less. The deaths of innocent people is never anything to cheer about.

Fat Cat
Submitted by Fat Cat on Mon, 2006-08-28 06:28.

I feel like playing a bit of a word game with Pigsun today. Please read this post of mine along side Pigsun's early post about the US & terrorism. Here we go:

My friend in Beijing wants to know why FLG is banned in China but not in other countries. All she can get from the internet is that FLG is an evil cult. So there is no history of FLG or definition of an evil cult except those defined by the Chinese government.

Why do FLG members all over the world keep attacking China for human rights abuse? FLG members are human too and they also have families. Do you think that they’ll enjoy being defamed, harassed, imprisoned and executed for their religious belief? By logic, FLG members overseas must have been so desperate to save other believers who are facing death in China that they would resort to extreme measures, such as disrupting Hu Jintao’s US visit. I’m sure you will understand what that means.

You must admit that this is not the only human rights abuse that’s taking place in China. Talk to the Uyghurs in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region. They are all denied right to practise their religion and culture. So they blow themselves up. Do you think that they want to do that? They had no CHOICE!!!! It’s simply the scream of a hopeless man. So when the Uyghur blew themselves up, or when the FLG accused the Chinese government of human right abuse, you could read comments about these atrocities worldwide. But we couldn't read about them in China. 90% of the netizens worldwide supported these victims of religious suppression (some support their actions directly; others do not support their actions, but also support their spirit).

So I hope that people in China can understand why there are so many supporters of the Dalai Lama, the Uyghur muslims and the so-called “evil cult�.

nausicaa
Submitted by nausicaa on Mon, 2006-08-28 06:44.
Quote:
I cannot read Math's post on terorrism, but I must say that today's "terrorism" is totally defined by the US. There's no standard. The only standard is US's standard. Basically the US believes he is the dad of the entire world, and he can "define" anything he want to.

Please...just give the relativist/deconstructionist arguments a rest.

Quote:
There's a saying in Chinese: "世界上没有无缘无故的爱, 也没有无缘无故的�". Why do you think people in Middle East can so easily become terrorists? They are humans too and they also have families. Do you they enjoy bomb themselves to meat pies? By logic, they must have been pushed so much that they are desparate and have no hope. 狗急跳墙. You understand what that means?

Grievances against U.S. foreign policy may be justified, but terrorism is never, ever justified, regardless of context.

Quote:
I must admit that these things happen in China too. There are some incidents where some Chinese worker or farmer who was wronged by the local government or his company and cannot find social justice, and they go to a court or a police station and blow themselves up. Do you think they wanted to do that? They had no choice!!!!!! It's simply the scream of a hopeless man. So when those farmers and workers blow themselves up in some police station or some court, and you read the comments on Sina.com on these stories, 80% of the netizens highly supported those workers (some support their actions directly, others do not support their actions, but also support their spirit).

A person who would take innocents down with him as part of his act of vengeance on a cruel, unfeeling world is an evil shithead, period.

drex
Submitted by drex on Sun, 2006-09-03 01:42.

Troll post deleted for use of ethnic slur and approval of terrorism.

Drex, keep it up and you'll be banned soon.